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Post by simplyKATEY. on Sept 29, 2007 0:40:54 GMT -5
Get your shit together. Put up or SHUT THE FUCK UP
People Who Are Exempt From This Letter: Corie Kyle Adam Mike Kayla [Partly] and PF I have never been so disgusted with everyone on this site. I am sick to my stomach reading half the shit on this site. What the hell is wrong with you people? I thought this was a family? Was I wrong to think that? Because, a FAMILY would not pick each other apart like this. A FAMILY would not go out of their way to bring someone down. DO NOT call yourself a part of this family if you’re only here to bring someone down. If you disagree, the door is that way. Don’t let it hit you on the way out. I gave up my admin powers for a very specific reason. I gave it up hoping that this drama bull shit would stop heading my way. That maybe, just maybe, Kyle could handle all this and there would be no problems. What I have heard over the course of the past three weeks has thoroughly disgusted me. I am not playing nice today. I will not be anyone’s friend in this letter. Read at your own risk. Stop now if you’re easily offended. And feel free to respond cause, this is the only chance you’ll get. [/b] Right now, I am really tired of this shit. You guys need to fucking grow up. You’re acting like children. Arguing because you can? Not Rping with people because you have personal problems? WHAT THE HELL?! I’m furious. Do not say that you don’t bring your personal problems into the Role Play when you refuse to RP with someone because of an argument outside of the game. Shut the fuck up and stop complaining. You want the RP to run smoothly? Do your part. If someone is in an argument with another person, stay the hell out of it. AND DO NOT BRING IT ON THIS SITE. I am sick and tired of coming on to see someone starting shit on the C-box. I also propose that LiveChat be taken off because people can’t seem to keep their maturity together. “Get on LiveChat.” That’s not suspicious right? We all know exactly what’s going on. It’s a fucking dis fest because you can’t take your ass to PM’s. Don’t play like everyone else is stupid. You just make yourself look worse. I also propose that the C-box be taken off as well. From this point on, I will be addressing people quite personally. If you don’t want to read yours, skip your name in bold. Garrett and Cinzia This one is to Garrett and Cinzia. Keep your relationshit off the site. No one wants to see it. It causes more drama than you think it does. Hell, I’m sure this letter will get people pissed the fuck off. And for once, I truly hope it does. I hope I get some feedback on all of this. Your drama brought on to the site about whatever the hell is going on in your life, does not need to be exclusive on the site. Cause, that’s not what the site is here for.
Garrett Garrett, you think you’re being monitored? Talk to people before you fucking start accusing them. Don’t always assume. It’s not heroic, nor is it ballsy. Just shut the fuck up for once. When you write your little tid bits about how you’re leaving, try to back it up or think it through first. I know I’m personally sick of watching you get on and off get on and off. I love Rping with you and I know a few others who do as well, but if you love your Shadow Clan so much, you’d put effort into it. Stop passing the blame to someone else. You complain how no one ever Rps on the site, put something up for someone to RP with. It may not get responded to while you’re on, but dammit someone will respond.
Cinzia Cinzia, if you’re going to join, fucking RP your character dammit.
Mike *Huggles* You try so hard and I’m sure people appreciate it. Much less than three.
John Keep your nose out of other peoples fucking business. If its not your problem, just stay the fuck out of it. You pull and pick at people until you find something wrong. And then you exploit it. You go on and on. Forgive and let live. Haven’t you ever heard the saying “Let sleeping dogs lie”? Jesus Christ. Stop holding grudges and get your shit together. You say you hate Kayla’s guts. What the hell did she do to you personally? Prove to me that you have a reason. By starting fights on the site, you make it worse. You’re stressing people out and its most definitely not helping. It’s becoming terribly annoying. Stop being a conniving little bastard, ‘kay? Okay.
Kyle You’re god modding, please stop it ;__;
Kat Usually, I’m pretty cool with you. But right now, its just pissed me the fuck off. Do not complain that people aren’t Rping when you only RP with Corie or John. Fucking A. The site is not just for chatting. YOU NEED TO RP TOO DAMMIT. GAH! We all know that Kayla did something wrong when she banned you off the C-box. We all know. Stop complaining about it. It’s been discussed and I’m sure Kayla will be losing her mod powers. You’re acting just as retarded as John and everyone else. Don’t think you haven’t done anything wrong. You wanted your faction, fucking do something with it. Strive to make the RP better instead of making it worse by doing nothing. And dammit Katie, stop killing the seals D:<
To both John & Kat Both of you need to stop your fucking complaining about everything. Yeah. You didn’t get your way on some things. Neither did a few people. I didn’t get what I wanted. I wanted a faction. But guess what Darlings, I gave up that so YOU could have YOUR faction. And stop blaming everything on Kayla. It’s not all her fault. Do not complain that Role Play is going down hill when neither of you guys RP unless the other is on. “Oh, I need so and so.” “And I need so and so.” Don’t get peoples hopes up and get on the site when you’re not going to Role Play, dammit.
Adam I’m sorry you’ve had to sit through all this. I truly am. You’ve done nothing wrong, Darling. You’re like the little brother everyone wanted. <3 Don’t forget that everyone still really cares for you dammit. I truly appreciate your want to stop all this damn fighting. Really.
Kayla ...You’re a dumbass. Stop it. Stop it now D:< [*luff*]
Shadow I have never met anyone in my life...with no logic whatsoever...It’s astounding. GO TO FUCKING SCHOOL. RAWR. Don’t runaway from home >< AND WHEN YOU RP, PUT SOME SUBSTANCE BOY! Bah. *Hits you with a frying pan* I love you to death, kid, but please. Please. USE THE LOGICAL FORCE!
Corie I love you. <3
Katey [yes. I’m yelling at myself.] God dammit. Why do you let these things get to you so terribly? Stop caring for people so much. Jesus Christ. Half of them could probably care less if you died or not. One of them doesn’t even think you’re a real friend. Another says you’re spineless and says you monitor them. Hell, most of them fake a friendship. There are some good ones right? The ones who don’t make you feel as Emo as you really are. Hell, even the ones who make you laugh until you cry. Those people are the reason you stick around right? The reason you try to keep this place running. This saved your life. This was the thing you wanted. This is what you consider happiness. But...most people don’t see it that way? Why do you care so much about it? Because. It saved me. Stop fucking ruining this for everyone else. Remember why most of you are here dammit. Remember that some people do care. And people can change. I’m sure you’re a few of the people who can say you’ve saved a life. And you know what? Know matter how much you all fucking get on my last nerves, I still love you all. And I’m sure that’s the way it will always be. So please, finally give a damn about someone else for once. Put in some effort. Please. Remind me why I joined this fucked up game in the first place. Sincerely, Katey Coston, a fifteen year old with nothing to lose
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Post by Karma Kayla!! on Sept 29, 2007 1:06:10 GMT -5
I LOVE YOU KATEY!!!!!
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Post by erebus on Sept 29, 2007 3:17:56 GMT -5
Fuck you.
Fuck this clan. This stopped being family a long time ago.
Honestly, you can rot. Ban me, I'm done watching my clan die because none of you have spines. Seriously, rot in a hell of your choosing.
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Post by erebus on Sept 29, 2007 3:20:35 GMT -5
I lied. I have respect for Mike, and ironically some for Kayla, despite misguided views.
The fact that you chose a disrespectful, ignorant friend over me is bullshit, Katey. And I hope all the personal vendettas slaughter the foundations you are all going to pretend to build upon.
Seriously. Your post disgusted me, and I hope you read this before it is deleted.
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Post by Achtung Katie™ on Sept 29, 2007 8:31:12 GMT -5
=/ I haven't complained that people aren't RPing anymore for a looooooooooooong time, 'cause I haven't been RPing either, because I'm just not feeling it anymore. I'm actually pretty much with Garrett on this. It's dead. Can we stop kicking it?
Not saying that I'm never coming here to talk to people, but...well, I stopped coming here for the "atmosphere" a long time ago. If I want to RP, I know that the place to do it is somewhere else. I mean, I love posting with Corie and Kyle, and Adam, and Shadow, and Sam if they reaaaaaaally begged, I'd do it for them. But everybody else? Eh. I've got Kayla and John on TNGC, and honestly, I like RPing there a whooooole lot better than here. We're a family, sure, a broken one. I've got one of those already, don't need a second, thanks.
I know I have done shit wrong, I never, ever will make the claim that I'm perfect. I know my sins better than anybody else does, and I realize them. A lot of what I said to Kayla in anger was not okay, and yeah, do I feel bad about it? Pretty much. I hate holding grudges, and I rarely do, but I made an exception, even though it wasn't the right thing.
AAAAAAAAAAND I never blamed everything on Kayla. Sure, she makes herself an easy target sometimes, because she can get under my skin real easy, but I am under no false impressions that whatever happened here was her fault. We voted on all (or most) of everything. It's everybody's fault, probably mine too. I don't think Kayla is an idiot, or stupid. I think she can be irrational, and jump to conclusions sometimes, but not stupid.
And the Roleplay is going down the hill argument is so last month.
So here
I'm sorry I got furious that one time a serious breach of my site rights happened. I'm sorry I stayed mad about it for once in my life. I don't try to drag up drama, and I don't try to make people angry, or pick MY side over ANYONE elses side. I really don't. I present evidence, you pick a side.
Getting rid of LiveChat won't solve a thing, because then can't we just, oh, I don't know, go to PM's like you suggested? Making it harder for us to share opinions doesn't mean a damn thing. If I'm fuming about something, maybe it's something private, or maybe it's something that I just don't feel like broadcasting to the world, or MAYBE me and John just want to have a philosophical conversation by ourselves, then, or about comic books which people don't want to hear...Why mess with that? We only use LiveChat because he doesn't always have AIM. Should we all uninstall AIM too? Because that's the only way that makes sense, other than to make things inconvenient. Which is a bitchy thing to do. Don't assume it was always a diss fest. Was it sometimes? Yeah. I get pissed off, he gets pissed off, don't act like you've never dissed people before Katey.
And anyways, you should be yelling at John before you yell at me. He only got into this because I DRAGGED HIM INTO IT. Do I always agree with what he says? No. I do believe in letting go, but don't act like he put himself into this mess, I did it FOR HIM from the very first moment I sent him a PM. So is it his fault? Not all of it. Don't pretend like he did this on purpose.
If you want your faction back, then pffft, by all means, take it, I don't think I'll be around for the RP anymore.
I'm done.
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Post by Achtung Katie™ on Sept 29, 2007 8:38:10 GMT -5
=/ Also, Garrett, where's this "none of you have spines omg!1!" coming from? Jesus Christ man, sorry we didn't fall on her like a pack of wild dogs and pick her clean to the bone the VERY MOMENT OMG!1! this came up.
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Post by afr on Sept 29, 2007 8:50:43 GMT -5
Everyone has a right to their opinions here... i think we all saw this place falling out of grace a long time ago. Some people chose to let it... others want to save it... I know what side I'm on. I haven't been there always for the site... but I know who it means the most to... and they mean the most to me. If not for this site I wouldn't have much. I owe it a bunch. I always said making this site too personal would be the downfall of it... since the beginning of ETS to the Rant Thread in ETS2 to Live Chat and C box wars here. It will take a lot to make the wounds heal... I guess all those who will work for it will remain friends even if the game folds... but the game will play on, even if it's only 3 or 4 of us playing. If Katey wants me to remind her why she plays the game... I will do my best. I think for everyone's sake, not just hers... We all lost something or will lose something if this goes away.
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Post by Bitter Suite on Sept 29, 2007 9:02:05 GMT -5
Okay.. time for shadow happy time.
First off, to Katey... thanks for including me... and yes, I will start going back to school V.V and thanks. I still look to you as a friend and someone I can go to when I have problems, I don't know if you feel the same.. or meh.
To Garrett... I for one owe you an apology, because.. I took Cinzia's side over you, and I extend a "useless" apology over to you.
She drew me in.. with the whole "I love garrett, and i'm innocent" thing. hell.. I could tell you some things, that you probably aren't even aware of yet.
Point being.. you were my friend, and I should have held you in higher regard than I did. It's cause I'm fucking stupid, and let people get inside my head, and manipulate me. While I thought you were the one setting out to manipulate me.. it was quite the opposite actually.
She was my best friend.... she was your girlfriend. She played us both, you more so than anyone, and I'm sorry brother.. for what it's worth.
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Post by Karma Kayla!! on Sept 29, 2007 9:50:40 GMT -5
I personally am trying to keep this place alive and if people wanna leave, that is fine.
Garrett, I love ya man, but sometimes you say a lot of stupid shit and what you said up there was honestly stupid. I do know you are going through a bunch of shit, but taking it out on us isn't making you anyone's number one fan. Some people just like talking to you. I honestly do. Are you gonna shun me, too?
And as for spines. D:< Damn eet man! I've got just as big as a motha fuckin' spine as you do. A lot of people have spines. If anyone is spineless lately, sadly, I believe it's you. You are running out on us, again. When shit here get's bad, you bail. You leave it for others to pick up the pieces. I know this site is hell, but I don't want to watch it fall apart and I don't want to let it just die. I love the SC and this place will always be my first real home.
I have some respect for you and I know somewhat of the shit you're going through. I'm here to talk if you want and my site is still open for the RPing if you need to get that out. I'm constantly on AIM when I'm not working. If I'm not on, just ask Mike when I'll be back or leave me a message on Myspace or wherever.
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DDD:< BUT WHAT IF I LIKE BEING CARELESS AND BEING A DUMBASS?!?!?!! >> It's me! ^^;;; We all know I do stupid shit. I LUFF YOU ALL! Except Mike. D:< He's a poo head. << So I love him more then you all. ^^
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Post by Affinity on Sept 29, 2007 11:13:50 GMT -5
Katey....
I love you as a friend FOEVA
lol
first I never wanted our drama or relationshit on the site I dont think I ever posted anything about it myself nor replied.
second ill try im like....jduiabsfdbvjdfbvjh
someone needs to force me to rp xDDDD
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thanks for the awakening
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Post by paperflowers on Sept 29, 2007 12:50:40 GMT -5
Hmm... *sighs* Quite honestly there are times when I want to put everyone (including myself) in time out for a bit (can you tell I work with children?). I think there are times when we all have too much history, and it rears its ugly head. We have our own politics. I know most people hate politics, but every group has them and we are no different. We have factions and groups and mini civil wars. The trick is to endure. And that is what we are struggling with. How do we endure when its so easy to just pick up and leave or make widespread changes?
Maybe we just need to start over. Not by getting a new site or in a new RP or anything. Maybe its simpler than that. Maybe we just need to start over with eachother. Remember the good things, accept that bad things happened and move on.
I know that that is much easier said then done. I know how hard it is. I know people wont want to do it. But maybe if we can at least discuss what is bothering us before we explode and address matters then we wont have to result to a verbal nuclear war (not saying this post is part of one, just stating they exist).
Its very important to differentiate between things that bother you in two ways, those that will go away in time because they are caused by moods, and those that need to be talked about and resolved. I think our problem is that sometimes we nitpick at the things that should just be forgotten, and other times we don' talk about what really matters. That is just my thought. I hope you will consider it, all of you.
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Post by GDR on Sept 29, 2007 17:35:39 GMT -5
YAY! Let's all yell at each other!
Believe me, that was SO helpful. I didn't know how horrible of a person I was until you cussed at me and everyone else.
And then, just to make it even more ironic, you yell at yourself for "caring too much". Uhh.... WTF? My bad, Mother Theresa.
... And your little "You're a conniving little bastard" dealie? Erk. Uhhm.... Guess what? I hold grudges. No secret. It happens. I didn't consider Mike2 a person for 2 years. I'm trying to get better, but guess what: If you do something stupid (and, more than stupid, if you do something just plain goddamn mean spirited) I am going to dislike you until I find reason to notice some form of improvement. I forgive Mike2 because he hasn't done anything (really) stupid to anyone here in a great long while. So instead of yelling and getting me pissed off at you (Most people aren't going to listen to a long angry rant addressed at them)... Stop and think about it. If you hate Nazis and you aren't a Jew, that would make you something of a hypocrite.
And for the record, I _NEVER_ did anything direct to Kayla until well after she banned me from the Cbox. Nor did I intend to. I did not post ANYTHING inflammatory in the Cbox, but she interpreted it as such and banned me, to which Mike decided he would take the liberty of being the knight in shining armor and bitched at me. I started to fight back, and Kayla hopped in rather randomly, held up the rest of the argument over AIM, and that was the end of it. And I'm not holding an overtly open grudge. I still talk to her casually at TNGC, and I would still RP with her character.
As for this place... Well, whatever, I haven't RPed here because... Like Katie said, it just seems kinda... Forced to me now. I dunno. Maybe it's the drama, but honestly, something else is gone too, and that's why it doesn't matter how hard we try to "save" it, it will never be quite the same as it is.
Annnd... Yes, I know, I'm throwing flames on the fire, Sam. I'm a terrible person, because I can't let go, but... >.< It's not that simple. There will always be an association with a name. Even if it's for only a flash of a second and then I try to make it go away... It will always be there.
And for the record: Yes, yes this thread HAS in fact lowered my opinion of you (Katey) bunches and bunches.
And a few side notes:
-I haven't bitched about anything involving RP since the start of the startover. Mostly because I know it's pointless to try and change anything. If anything, this site has at the very least managed to wake me up to an unwanted reality, that change is impossible. Isn't that ironic? A fantasy RP taught me about cruel harsh reality.
-Don't yell at Katie. At all. She hasn't done anything wrong, any more than anyone else. She's the one who got trampled in this situation. >.> And no, no we did not sit around and bitch about Kayla behind her back non-stop. -_- And I’m not her either. She can forgive everyone, I don’t care, because I am not as trusting as she is.
-And also, I know Kayla isn't the prime evil of this site. X.x
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Post by Karma Kayla!! on Sept 29, 2007 20:32:27 GMT -5
Who said I'm fucking trusting? You know what, John, Katey bitch at you because you have been a "conniving little bastard". Using the fight Katie and I had for two fucking days as an excuse to be angry at me? How fucking immature and pathetic. At least I can fucking say I'm immature and pathetic and I don't constantly use logic to make my self seem "better". ( You are horrible at using logic. Seriously. Just stop before your stupidity becomes an epidemic. )
Katey is saying how she feels and this whole rant thing was because she does care. She's sick of you being a little bastard and quite honestly, I know a few ppl who are. Why don't you just jump off the SC cliff? Honestly, you contribute nothing and you did nothing even when you bitched in the first place.
I have nothing against you, but you attacked Katey in a very immature mannor. I find it rude how your "opinion" of her has lowered. She's a better person then you'll ever be. At least she doesn't hold grudges nor stoops as low as you have. I'm one of the most angry people you'll ever know and there's only a hand full of ppl that I hold grudges against. I don't hold ANY grudges from the people on here because it was the SC that helped me to find out who I am. This place was my first real home.
If anyone's opinion of anyone has gone down, it's you in my eyes. And it's really isn't my fault the site is shitty. It's people like you who hold grudges and allow something as stupid as a banning FOR A GOOD REASON to hate people.
And FYI, I don't trust jack shit from anyone. Even people that I'm close to. My reason: Little shit heads like you.
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Post by GDR on Sept 29, 2007 21:08:05 GMT -5
... Tch. Kayla, I'll repeat what I said: If you pull something stupid, I will hold a grudge. I would call it an "impression". You can formulate your entire opinion of me based on that if you wish. Bitch me out all you want, but you can't change that. I can, and I will try to get better, but I can't do it all the time. I'm not a trusting person by nature. Deal with it. Or, do me a favor, and don't. Please: I just want someone to yell at me all the time. It makes my life "fun"
Ya ya ya, I contribute nothing, worthless piece of shit, etc. etc. etc.
Alright, so maybe holding grudges is how I do it. Maybe I don't blow up like you every time somebody pisses off. I'm not a wrathful person, though it seems like it's hard to tell on this site. But I refuse to be a fucking doormat, and I refuse to manipulate people and stir up shit like you. I would rather stay in my corner of grudges and keep the fuck away from you, thanks. Which contradicts my slight penchant for justice and equality, but that's what happens when you have a conflict of personality.
I don't really care about what you think of me. I stopped caring when I realized just how right Garrett was about you.
And, ironically, I learned trust from this site. What little I had, anyways.
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Post by Karma Kayla!! on Sept 29, 2007 21:27:50 GMT -5
And how was Garrett right about me, may I ask? And I've NEVER EVER manipulated a person in my life. If you wanna call someone else being enfactuated with me manipulation, then go ahead.
*dies laughing* You're a doormat? I recall that anytime some shit went down before I got a spine, it was all my fault. Hmmmmm....you a doormat? Hunny, you're not worth even being a doormat. And yes, I say hunny cause I wanna be different. Fuck off about that.
And if you wanna keep the fuck away from me, you're honestly not doing a good job. You attacked Katey and dragged my name into it. Don't expect me to be nice. I don't do well when people use MY name in a negative way. It's called defending myself. You are doing it now.
Katey at least has a concence to feel bad. And I constantly appologize, but I'm sick being sorry for you. You've honestly gotten lower and lower on any list that I held you on. Surprizingly, you used to be very high on that list. I used to be able to trust you. Now, you're not even good enough to shit on.
Honestly, just go away. Stop posting. No one is going to really care if you leave or not. There may be a two second "oh", but that's it. At least we've mopped away the worthless pieces of ass on the site.
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Post by GDR on Sept 29, 2007 21:33:28 GMT -5
... I'd love nothing more.
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Post by Karma Kayla!! on Sept 29, 2007 21:34:53 GMT -5
Good! Then go!
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Post by Bitter Suite on Sept 29, 2007 22:12:40 GMT -5
Guys please stop.. this fighting is useless, it truly is.
we cannot move forward, unless we aren't bound to the past.
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Post by Miss Twix on Sept 30, 2007 15:09:37 GMT -5
;__; oh god...jeeebus....x.X im sorry all this shit happened....but damn...i'm takin' a break from this place...and sorry but from all of you too....i hope ya guys get what ya want
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Post by paperflowers on Sept 30, 2007 17:39:58 GMT -5
*sighs* Its like no body bothered reading half of this...
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