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Post by Achtung Katie™ on Jan 1, 2010 1:35:34 GMT -5
Can we get a new start?
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Post by Karma Kayla!! on Jan 1, 2010 3:55:10 GMT -5
$20 says probably not.
But, I'll be optimistic and say...LET'S TRY IT! ^^
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Post by The Loathed on Jan 1, 2010 7:21:01 GMT -5
Define new start ~_o
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Post by Achtung Katie™ on Jan 1, 2010 13:42:33 GMT -5
Forgive, if not forget.
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Post by The Loathed on Jan 1, 2010 20:36:55 GMT -5
Forgetting doesn't accomplish anything, as history repeating itself shows us frequently.
The forgiving part requires more than one party to work, so I don't know how well that'd work either, but no outside force is going to affect the way I play my characters.
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Post by Achtung Katie™ on Jan 1, 2010 21:37:07 GMT -5
This has nothing to do with characters, and it hasn't for a very long time.
I'm not asking anyone to forget anything, because as most people well know, those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. I am asking, sincerely and completely, with every fibre of my being that I can muster, for you, and Kayla, to forgive, and move on. To let go of every single petty little grudge you have ever held against each other in your history here. I'm asking you, Kayla, Katey, and even myself to move. on. None of us are innocent in this, and I'm not pretending that I'm a saint and you need to follow my example, because I'm just as bad, if not worse than any of you.
I'm asking you to stop antagonizing Mike in your sitdiary entries, I'm asking that passive aggressive comments, actions (both in character, and out) end, and I'm asking that you be civil to each other. It doesn't matter to me if you genuinely like each other or not. You can coexist. But you have to let it go.
I don't care if you don't speak to me, or Katey, or Kayla off the site, I don't care if the only contact any of you has with anyone else is through this URL at the top of the screen, I'm not asking anyone to force themselves to be friends with anyone else . I'm begging for a cease fire. I'm asking to make this a place we escape to.
Every single one of us has, at one time or another, been dealt a shit hand in life. We have been kicked while we're down, we have had mud thrown in our faces, and we have been stepped on by our family, our friends, and people we don't even give a fuck about. I am asking you, Kayla, Katey, myself and even Mike to put down arms and just stop.
I can't come home to this anymore. This is the limit we have reached, and this is as far as I, personally, can stretch. I'm not speaking for anyone else, but I'd really like to think that everyone else has reached their limit to.
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Post by Karma Kayla!! on Jan 2, 2010 1:33:34 GMT -5
I honestly can say I don't really know if I can consider anyone here a friend. Maybe Corie, but we barely speak so even then that's kinda iffy. I don't say this to be rude or hurtful. It's the honest truth.
I come here to RP, for fun. I know the names, but the faces all changed. Maybe a large part of it is due to the fact that you guys banned me and I'm still rather hurt about it. Maybe it could be the fact that I've fallen out with so many of you I can't talk without having a grudge seep through. Maybe it's because we all have spent too much time together, found all of our faults and now hold them against one another.
Whatever it is, I don't honestly think any of this will clear up unless everyone sits down with one another and just talks things out. Maybe means apologizing for real for everything that could have possibly been done wrong and everything you know in your heart you did wrong. Maybe that means just pretending we're all just characters again with no face, no location, no age. Maybe there can never be an end.
While a part of me wants to say "fuck it", I know that we can rebound. Yet, how long will that last? How long will we honestly be okay? Does it require getting rid of another member? Does it require another person just walking off and never coming back? Does it involve quitting the one thing that brought us all once so close together?
I want to try, I honestly do, but I don't think some people on here are ready for that kind of growing up and change.
I want to be angry, but I'm so sick of fighting that there isn't an angry bone left.
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Post by Bitter Suite on Jan 3, 2010 3:16:45 GMT -5
Hello everyone, it's been quite awhile hasn't it?
I will stick my nose in again, because I too believe that it's time for all the problems to be solved, all the wounds to heal. Whatever it was, whatever happened, whoever was liked or disliked...the Shadow Clan was a huge part of our teenage years.
It helped most of us find out who we are, and most of all enabled us to survive. It accomplished what most high class shrinks couldn't, it saved lives. I think Kayluff is right. It's time to sit down and talk things out; no not just say: "Oh it's alright" and still bear anger and hatred, but to really talk...and to forgive.
People fight, people are immature...but people also grow and change. I know I've changed a lot, I'm not the same immature asshole that some may remember. I'm almost an adult. I joined when I was twelve, now I'm seventeen. Would anyone expect me to be the same now as I was five years ago? No. It's impossible...yet some would hold old anger as if it WERE possible.
To even keep anything lasting; friendships or whatever... we need to work on this. I miss a lot of people. I personally do not hold any grudges against anybody, it's been...what, a year? A long time to clear head. All it takes is us to re-acquaint with one another again. What have we got to lose?
Proof that it is possible is Kayla and I. We were possibly the WORST and most bitter against each other, but now what? I talk to her every now and then..no resentment on my part, and I'm sure none on hers.
All I'm trying to say is, when the problems started...we were all young. Now we're all almost adults...we can make it work. Admit it or not, there's a reason that we all still come here. We all may not post like we used to, but I know I'm not the only one that checks the site every now and then...it's because we miss what the SC used to be. We can get it back with some effort.
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Post by Karma Kayla!! on Jan 3, 2010 4:13:59 GMT -5
<< No, pretty sure Garrett and I top the "bitter against each other" charts even though he will deny it.
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Post by The Loathed on Jan 3, 2010 4:50:43 GMT -5
Honestly, I'm not bitter against anyone. It isn't denial if its a statement, generally.
We are all here, because there is still magic in it for us. People change. Some of us grow up, others of us don't. We've all developed our own ways, at our own pace. Katie put it best when she said we've all been dealt a shit hand at some point in life.
That's why we all found and will continue to find solace in the Shadow Clan. We're kindred outcast, that is why we never actually walk away.
That said, I disagree with the idea that anyone needs to sit down and work things out. Several personalities clash, and I can speak for myself certainly when I say that some of the issues I've had are fundamental and I sincerely doubt anything would come from the attempted 'peace talks.' But with that said, I also see the very same passive-aggressive martyrdom in this thread that will continue to cause friction with any sort of rebuilding we attempt to do.
I have no doubt that the SC will survive this latest bout of idiocy. It always does, and it always will, so long as even one of us will fight for it.
Before I digress further, back to my main point.
I agree with the ceasefire. Beyond that, nothing else is really necessary, as far as I'm concerned. The RP needs to be about the RP, and our personal shit needs to remain just that--- personal. I think that the ceasefire should apply to SitDiary as well, as we've found SitDiary to be an entertaining forum to make potshots at one-another for a larger audience than we have here on the Shadow Clan.
I will offer no one an insincere apology, regardless of the consequences thereof. This place has been a refuge for myself and most of involved in this discussion for a big chunk of our lives. That isn't going to change because of this.
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Post by The Loathed on Jan 3, 2010 5:20:05 GMT -5
And before anyone else responds to this thread, I implore you---
Read two threads down. We have all changed for the better, some more than others. The Shadow Clan isn't rotting now as it was then. We're dealing with a cold, albeit perhaps a nasty one... but this cold could have been the cancer that we've beaten before.
Think long and hard before you add anything here, because if this thread is to truly fix the current issues, it needs both logic and compassion.
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Post by Bitter Suite on Jan 3, 2010 5:20:09 GMT -5
Well I for one, offer an apology to any one that I've directly or indirectly offended with any of my actions in the past six years.
It's the best I can offer.
Other than that, it is a new year. Hopefully the SC can be rebuilt. I would love to RP here once again like the old days, where there was like 10+ people, not just 2-3.
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Post by Achtung Katie™ on Jan 3, 2010 13:12:15 GMT -5
SHADOW WHERE IN THE SHIT DID YOU COME FROM
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Post by Achtung Katie™ on Jan 3, 2010 13:14:11 GMT -5
I MEAN HONESTLY WHAT THE FUCK
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Post by Karma Kayla!! on Jan 3, 2010 16:06:02 GMT -5
I AGREE WITH KATIE! WTF?!
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Post by Bitter Suite on Jan 3, 2010 17:17:42 GMT -5
To my knowledge, I am not the cause or effect of anything that happened in the past few months. However, a great deal of the "old" problems I was apart of, which is basically why the new drama still happens. It's because people never really get over the old things, never allow the wounds to heal, hence why infection creeps in and corrupts everything.
Aside from the disgustingly visual metaphor, it's exactly what keeps on happening. Truces don't do jack, because people still remember and hold things. If peace can truly be reached, everything has to be let go...or talked over.
And...nice to see you too, Katie and Kayla >.>
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Post by simplyKATEY. on Jan 3, 2010 17:35:48 GMT -5
Honestly, no one is going to sit down and talk through shit. It's beyond that. I'm all for letting it go and moving the fuck on.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days, weeks, or even months over-analyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what could've, would've happened... or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the fuck on."
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Post by Achtung Katie™ on Jan 3, 2010 17:36:23 GMT -5
past few years*
I pretty much asked everyone to let go of it, buuuuuuuuuuuut apparently that's not possible.
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Post by Miss Twix on Jan 3, 2010 18:20:10 GMT -5
im gonna go ahead and lock this <.< 'cause it's not really helping anything
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