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Post by erebus on Jul 29, 2007 18:39:00 GMT -5
I propose the immediate removal of any sort of powers of Kayla <Hikari Moriyaku> or whatever other character name you have for her.
In my honest opinion, she does not deserve it, she constantly manipulates and bullies, and when she can not get her way, she uses admin powers on both herself and whoever bettered her in a verbal debate.
This has been proven countless times, and anyone on the c-box today knows what I am talking about.
I was told to take it to a public forum, the correct way. Here it is.
If this is removed, it further proves my point. But when Katey returns, and it will be soon, hell hath no fury.
This will not stand.
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Post by erebus on Jul 29, 2007 18:47:17 GMT -5
Below is my example of everything I've stated.
Read up from the bottom.
============ iKatie: are we even agreeing on what a plot is? 29 Jul 07, 16:14 iKatie: x.x why can't one person write up a plot? 29 Jul 07, 16:14 Erebus: I'm going to one-up you there, Kat. 29 Jul 07, 16:14 Kayla: Yes, I do. 29 Jul 07, 16:13 mike: you don't have to make everyone happy, but you can't divide the site. the main plot is one we all must agree on... again... I like yours 29 Jul 07, 16:13 Kayla: We can't have one person write up a plot, Katie. That's the main issue. 29 Jul 07, 16:13 Erebus: You are a fucking hypocrite, you know that? 29 Jul 07, 16:13 iKatie: like a lot 29 Jul 07, 16:13 iKatie: okay, methinks eeeeeeeverybody needs to calm down 29 Jul 07, 16:13 Erebus: You fucking grow up 29 Jul 07, 16:13 Kayla: Grow the fuck up. 29 Jul 07, 16:13 iKatie: !!!! 29 Jul 07, 16:13 Erebus: Your opening line to me was, what, "fuck you" ? 29 Jul 07, 16:13 iKatie: I thought if we could just get one person to write up a plot, then the factions would fit into there...and...like...I don't understand >< 29 Jul 07, 16:13 Erebus: Get your head out yours. 29 Jul 07, 16:13 Kayla: Stop being an ass. 29 Jul 07, 16:13 Erebus: Yes, my typical answer. 29 Jul 07, 16:13 Kayla: Not everyone has agreed. 29 Jul 07, 16:12 iKatie: >< 29 Jul 07, 16:12 iKatie: um 29 Jul 07, 16:12 iKatie: like 29 Jul 07, 16:12 Erebus: Fuck it. 29 Jul 07, 16:12 iKatie: WHAT I AM CONFUSED ABOUT is wtf plots? 29 Jul 07, 16:12 Erebus: Kayla, stop trying to play great protectorate. 29 Jul 07, 16:12 Kayla: I haven't fully come up with my idea yet cause I've been working on others. 29 Jul 07, 16:12 iKatie: I haven't forgotten the conversation, that's not what I'm confused about 29 Jul 07, 16:12 Erebus: We were all agreed on what I've been saying thus far 29 Jul 07, 16:12 Kayla: Neither do a shit load of us, Katie. 29 Jul 07, 16:12 mike: don't set anything in stone until we are all here to say yes or no... some people don't like your idea... if you force it on them they won't want to RP. do you see that? 29 Jul 07, 16:12 iKatie: I don't understand what you're trying to accomplish here, and the plots, and...what? 29 Jul 07, 16:12 Kayla: Leave Katie alone, she did nothing. 29 Jul 07, 16:12 iKatie: I'm just saying 29 Jul 07, 16:11 Erebus: I mean, seriously. 29 Jul 07, 16:11 Kayla: Katey is just a part of this. What she says doesn't go just like what you and I say don't go. EVERYONE has to decide. 29 Jul 07, 16:11 Erebus: Did you forget the conversation we had the other evening? 29 Jul 07, 16:11 Erebus: How the fuck are any of you confused? 29 Jul 07, 16:11 iKatie: srsly 29 Jul 07, 16:11 Erebus: And when people gave ideas, I'm pretty sure you shit on those people 29 Jul 07, 16:11 iKatie: about what the hell you're all going on about 29 Jul 07, 16:11 iKatie: so confused 29 Jul 07, 16:11 iKatie: I am 29 Jul 07, 16:11 Erebus: Well, Kayla, you missed that memo 29 Jul 07, 16:10 Kayla: All of us. 29 Jul 07, 16:10 Erebus: What are you talking about Mike? 29 Jul 07, 16:10 Kayla: It's a group of us. 29 Jul 07, 16:10 Kayla: She doesn't make all the choices either. 29 Jul 07, 16:10 Erebus: She gave me free reigns. 29 Jul 07, 16:10 Erebus: I've already talked to Katey about my shit, and she agrees with me. 29 Jul 07, 16:10 mike: that's what you have to realize... if you being the bad guys means you have your say on what you are going to do then whoever is the good guys will want a say in what they do.... 29 Jul 07, 16:10 Kayla: If you're going to have that attitude, maybe you shouldn't have it. 29 Jul 07, 16:10 Erebus: How is it up to anyone else? They can propose suggestions, which each factions take into consideration and add to their own general plotline. 29 Jul 07, 16:10 Kayla: Katey assigned it to you and we all agreed. We didn't have to, but we did. 29 Jul 07, 16:09 Erebus: If myself and Kyle are in charge of the bad-guys, and Kyle has already stated he agrees with our plot and what-not 29 Jul 07, 16:09 Erebus: But here is the thing. 29 Jul 07, 16:09 mike: idon't mind it at all, but someone might 29 Jul 07, 16:09 Erebus: You assigned the bad-guys to me and Kyle. 29 Jul 07, 16:09 Erebus: Well, as I recall, Your Dictatorship 29 Jul 07, 16:09 mike: what if the people of the SC decide they don't like your plot?... i heard many people say they liked johns 29 Jul 07, 16:08 Kayla: Says who? Maybe other ppl want to be the bad guys. Maybe they don't like what you're gonna do. Just because you're doing it doesn't mean it's gonna stick. 29 Jul 07, 16:08 Erebus: What the fuck are you going to do without enemies? 29 Jul 07, 16:08 Erebus: WE'RE THE BAD GUYS 29 Jul 07, 16:08 Erebus: My faction is 100% accepted. 29 Jul 07, 16:08 Erebus: And I'm sure I'm not the only one. 29 Jul 07, 16:08 Kayla: Just so you know, your faction isn't 100% accepted yet either just like mine. 29 Jul 07, 16:07 Erebus: But this attitude of "Fuck you all, I don't need nobody" pisses me the fuck off, for one. 29 Jul 07, 16:07 mike: your faction yes, the main plot... no nothing is set in stone until the final great vote... 29 Jul 07, 16:07 Erebus: When you decide to do the same, Kayla, let me know. 29 Jul 07, 16:07 Erebus: I didn't come here for a shit-storm. I came here to help. 29 Jul 07, 16:07 Erebus: Nobody else said shit, so I did. 29 Jul 07, 16:07 Erebus: I just gave ideas. Thats all I did. 29 Jul 07, 16:07 Erebus: Me and Kyle's faction is up to our jurisdiction. 29 Jul 07, 16:07 Kayla: Do whatever. 29 Jul 07, 16:06 Kayla: Fine. Whatever. 29 Jul 07, 16:06 mike: what we have to realize is that nothing discussed is set in stone, even your plot line garrett. not without approval and kayla note the same... nothing said is set in stone... ok... great... 29 Jul 07, 16:05 Erebus: If you want to deny it, I'll just quote you. 29 Jul 07, 16:05 Erebus: You've been rude, hostile, and have resorted to ignorant, sixth-grader bullshit this entire conversation. 29 Jul 07, 16:05 Erebus: You can do it yourself. 29 Jul 07, 16:05 Erebus: If this is how you behave 29 Jul 07, 16:05 Kayla: -______-;;; I just wanna get shit done. 29 Jul 07, 16:05 Erebus: That probably isn't a big news flash for most of us 29 Jul 07, 16:05 mike: i underestimated them O.o... i thought they'd just leave it be 29 Jul 07, 16:05 Erebus: I don't care. 29 Jul 07, 16:04 Kayla: Well, I was right. 29 Jul 07, 16:04 Erebus: Not end of topic. 29 Jul 07, 16:04 Kayla: Neither was I. End of topic. 29 Jul 07, 16:04 iKatie: hey look, from the horses mouth 29 Jul 07, 16:04 iKatie: hey, woah, Mike was telling the truth Garrett. You did kinda take over once you got started, me and John agreed on that point. 29 Jul 07, 16:03 Erebus: I just gave suggestions. 29 Jul 07, 16:03 Erebus: I wasn't forcing my opinion on them 29 Jul 07, 16:03 Erebus: Is this how you treat everyone, Kayla? 29 Jul 07, 16:03 mike: Katie and John said about 2 minutes after your leave that you tried to power play ideas worse then kayla... it's no joke, and they wouldn't tell you either probably 29 Jul 07, 16:03 Kayla: It's supposed to be, but a friendly warning doesn't do shit. 29 Jul 07, 16:03 Kayla: I'm sorry that your fucking high horse can't get any bigger when you're around me. 29 Jul 07, 16:03 Erebus: Oh, this discussion is about character aps? 29 Jul 07, 16:02 Erebus: I'm sorry Kayla feels intimidated when someone threatens her admin-stick. 29 Jul 07, 16:02 mike: you are here to agree on character aps 29 Jul 07, 16:02 Erebus: I have yet to be rude or disrespectful, Mike. 29 Jul 07, 16:02 Kayla: -_- 29 Jul 07, 16:02 Kayla: Boo hoo. 29 Jul 07, 16:02 Kayla: What are you going to do? Whine?
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Post by erebus on Jul 29, 2007 18:49:46 GMT -5
Also.
I did tell her "Fuck You."
I could not find it on the chat-box, so my apologies.
Here is a continuation.
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Kayla: So...what the hell is going on with the races? 29 Jul 07, 16:34 Erebus: For Fuck's Sake 29 Jul 07, 16:34 Erebus: All I was doing was trying to respectfully, tactfully ask you to tone it down 29 Jul 07, 16:34 Kayla: I'm sick of this fighting. I just want to work on this motha fuckin' site. 29 Jul 07, 16:34 Erebus: I don't have one. 29 Jul 07, 16:34 Erebus: What is my way, Kayla? 29 Jul 07, 16:33 Kayla: Oh my god, Garrett. Just stop. Seriously. You won. You got your way. End it. Jebus. I started it. Do you want to hear that? 29 Jul 07, 16:33 Erebus: You just deal with it. 29 Jul 07, 16:33 Erebus: You don't. 29 Jul 07, 16:32 Erebus: How do you handle that tactfully? 29 Jul 07, 16:32 Erebus: THE PERSON IS THE SITUATION 29 Jul 07, 16:32 Erebus: And the middle. 29 Jul 07, 16:32 Erebus: But rest assured, they have the beginning of this conversation 29 Jul 07, 16:32 mike: respectively... take it in the forum... if you want it to be heard... have it heard by all... and make an example of the situation... not the person... 29 Jul 07, 16:32 Kayla: Can we please just work on this site now? 29 Jul 07, 16:32 Erebus: I lack backing, no admins are on. 29 Jul 07, 16:32 Erebus: She wins again 29 Jul 07, 16:32 Erebus: Whatever. 29 Jul 07, 16:31 mike: no one is enlightened nor improved because of this... 29 Jul 07, 16:30 mike: right now it's about her... you never mentioned anyone else in this... I was going to step up saturday and talk about this.... 29 Jul 07, 16:29 Erebus: It's not picking on. It's dealing with an issue. 29 Jul 07, 16:29 Erebus: You see, when someone IS the issue 29 Jul 07, 16:29 Erebus: It is a global issue, just as it was when I started the conversation. 29 Jul 07, 16:29 Erebus: I have yet to pick on anyone. 29 Jul 07, 16:29 mike: make it a point on the assembly if you want it to be known.... but do it without picking on her... make it a global issue 29 Jul 07, 16:28 Erebus: And we can see whats fucking what. 29 Jul 07, 16:28 Erebus: I'll have Cinzia call Katey right now 29 Jul 07, 16:28 Erebus: Okay. 29 Jul 07, 16:28 mike: it will happen now... and no one will see it, garrett... then it's who's words over another's on what really happened 29 Jul 07, 16:28 Shadow: I don't care anymore... about anyone but myself. Isn't that how everyone else is? then I shall follow suit. 29 Jul 07, 16:27 Erebus: You've dug yourself a hole with me and Cinzia. 29 Jul 07, 16:27 Erebus: Shadow, go fuck yourself. 29 Jul 07, 16:27 Erebus: I'm not ranting right now. 29 Jul 07, 16:27 Shadow: Garr.. don't you think you're over exaggerating a bit?... Kayla isn't as demonic as you are presenting her to be... honestly. 29 Jul 07, 16:27 Erebus: Because I know in my heart what will happen if this is not handled now. 29 Jul 07, 16:27 mike: you can't be indifferent to others and expect them to care about this rant 29 Jul 07, 16:27 Erebus: Put this up to deal with later, or forget it entirely? 29 Jul 07, 16:27 Erebus: What do you want to happen here, Mike? 29 Jul 07, 16:26 Erebus: I will. 29 Jul 07, 16:26 Erebus: They won't say it to her. 29 Jul 07, 16:26 Erebus: Thats my point. 29 Jul 07, 16:26 mike: then why should they care about what you are saying... 29 Jul 07, 16:26 Erebus: I can give you a better definition, if you'd like. 29 Jul 07, 16:26 Erebus: As in, repeating. Saying what others said to me. 29 Jul 07, 16:26 Erebus: Most of what I've said, I am repeating. 29 Jul 07, 16:25 Erebus: I DON'T CARE IF PEOPLE ARE ANNOYED 29 Jul 07, 16:25 mike: making a spectical of it will just annoy everyone else 29 Jul 07, 16:25 Erebus: Here we are again. 29 Jul 07, 16:25 Erebus: We've dealt with it privately and, oh, right. 29 Jul 07, 16:25 Erebus: It needs to be public. 29 Jul 07, 16:25 Erebus: I can do that. We always do. 29 Jul 07, 16:25 mike: then do it non-publically 29 Jul 07, 16:25 Erebus: Let her get away with her rampages? 29 Jul 07, 16:25 Erebus: Everyone else does. 29 Jul 07, 16:25 Erebus: I can do that. 29 Jul 07, 16:25 Erebus: So ignore it, like we always do? 29 Jul 07, 16:25 Erebus: We've swapped sites because of drama that, honestly, revolves around the core members of the Clan. 29 Jul 07, 16:24 mike: this is hardly constructive conversation garrett... all it does is piss people off... and it is what people who come here will see and not want to come back to 29 Jul 07, 16:24 Erebus: Since the FIRST website. 29 Jul 07, 16:24 Erebus: You've been this way since the first website we made for the Shadow Clan. 29 Jul 07, 16:24 Erebus: If you can't handle that, you don't need to be here. 29 Jul 07, 16:24 Erebus: and b) acceptable ways of disagreeing. 29 Jul 07, 16:24 Erebus: You need to learn how to a) treat people 29 Jul 07, 16:24 Erebus: Currently, I am speaking about how I feel respectfully in the hopes that a member can improve herself to a tolerable level. 29 Jul 07, 16:23 Erebus: I have yet to do anything bannable, as I recall. 29 Jul 07, 16:23 Shadow: Garr.. please..? 29 Jul 07, 16:23 mike: your perpetuating her to continue is just going to end up with both of you getting banned... is that at all smart 29 Jul 07, 16:23 Erebus: I've been WELL fucking behaved. 29 Jul 07, 16:23 Erebus: And a lot of them aren't online right now. 29 Jul 07, 16:23 Erebus: And I presume you treat everyone that way, even if they won't mention it here and now. 29 Jul 07, 16:22 Erebus: You didn't get me a chance to say a thing before you tried to burn me down. 29 Jul 07, 16:22 Erebus: Rude. Disrespectful. You had a "Fuck the World" attitude. 29 Jul 07, 16:22 Erebus: You were, as I stated, 29 Jul 07, 16:22 Erebus: Ignoring it doesn't make it go away 29 Jul 07, 16:22 Erebus: It needs to be said. 29 Jul 07, 16:22 Shadow: Everyone please chill out. 29 Jul 07, 16:22 Erebus: Then I'll rot in it. 29 Jul 07, 16:22 Kayla: Drop. It. 29 Jul 07, 16:22 Erebus: Granted, I didn't know what the discussion was about and I might have started the wrong discussion. 29 Jul 07, 16:21 mike: garrett you aren't helping by continueing this.... it's just digging yourself a grave next to hers 29 Jul 07, 16:21 Erebus: I tried being nice to you. 29 Jul 07, 16:21 Erebus: I said before it started I was a neutral party. 29 Jul 07, 16:21 Erebus: I was not rude to you. 29 Jul 07, 16:21 Erebus: Can you read? 29 Jul 07, 16:21 Erebus: I said no. 29 Jul 07, 16:21 Kayla: I said to drop it. 29 Jul 07, 16:21 Erebus: I'm tired of people dealing with it for the greater good. 29 Jul 07, 16:21 Erebus: They resent it, and resent you, but they deal with it for the greater good 29 Jul 07, 16:21 Erebus: You try to verbally ass-fuck anyone who opposes you, and most of the time people back down 29 Jul 07, 16:20 Erebus: Now you are going to listen 29 Jul 07, 16:20 Erebus: But that was retaliation. 29 Jul 07, 16:20 Kayla: I did, you can, too. 29 Jul 07, 16:20 Erebus: I have YET to be hostile to you, other than my "fuck you" 29 Jul 07, 16:20 Erebus: t = it. 29 Jul 07, 16:20 Erebus: So you can deal with t. 29 Jul 07, 16:20 Erebus: I am not dropping this issue. 29 Jul 07, 16:20 Erebus: Oh, hell no. 29 Jul 07, 16:20 Erebus: No. 29 Jul 07, 16:20 Kayla: This childish shit is fucking annoying. 29 Jul 07, 16:19 Kayla: Garrett, fucking drop it. Let's work on what we were going to fucking work on and just fucking deal.
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Post by Karma Kayla!! on Jul 29, 2007 19:16:25 GMT -5
Please note as a detail from me. The beginning of the chat is not here. x.x BUUUUUUUUUT, I did start it.
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Post by Achtung Katie™ on Jul 29, 2007 19:25:26 GMT -5
Okay, here's what I think.
Kyle and Corie should have the power. That's it, that's all, no more. Obviously, they're the only two responsible enough to act like adults in every situation. With everybody else, it seems to be a hit or miss.
It seems that whenever ANYBODY gets some power, it's great for the first little while, but it evolves into something that is used for personal reasons, banning included. I do agree that Kayla was powertripping just a little when she threatened to ban John a few days ago. He hadn't broken any rules, and it was only because she was angry. I don't say that because I hate Kayla or because I'm taking Garrett's side in everything, I'm saying it because that's what I really think.
Kayla is great with the backgrounds, and the coding and stuff like that. She certainly has more patience than I would with it, so I vote that she gets to keep those powers. But other than that...well...I think I've said my piece.
And as for everything else...I think everybody needs to take a step back, and calm down. People are so intent in getting their ideas in, that other peoples ideas tend to get trampled, and then yelling starts, and then I get confused, and it's hard to contribute when I don't know what's going on.
That's my two cents. I don't say it with the intent to hurt somebody, or start a fight, or begin a grudge, but I am saying it, and it is what I really think.
x.x don't crucify me.
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Post by simplyKATEY. on Jul 30, 2007 11:58:38 GMT -5
Alright. So. I just snuck on to see all this. I still have faith though x.x;;
Um, you two, just shouldn't even talk to each other. If there's a problem, copy paste, screen shot, whatever, send it to an admin. Just don't go psycho. If you stress Kyle, I will shoot. God knows I'm getting calls everyday. Sheesh. The only thing that will happen is Cbox bans for now. If it keeps up, I will raise hell.
Thank you and goodnight.
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Post by afr on Jul 30, 2007 12:36:47 GMT -5
I will try to figure out the races with her if no one else objects... you two were both highly disappointing yesterday. I will do this as to not totally vilify just one of you, because both of you are equally guilty. As i said If we are all the greater good, then yesterday you were the lesser of two evils. The lesser of two evils is still evil... and the enemy of my enemy is not my friend. You two bring the hostility to the site that will lose members and draw new members away from us... Shame on both of you... hopefully you two will both learn by it because after 2 years you both still get in on each other. It's no one person's fault... it's both of your's fault. Clean it up by yourselves or force us to do it for you.
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Post by erebus on Jul 31, 2007 20:52:18 GMT -5
Kayla Quotes!!!!! YAY AYAY YAY
Yeah. Done.
And Cinzia, if you want to be like that, then do go because fighting is the thing that tears this place apart. I know that I'm part of the problem, but you going around blaming people that had nothing to do with the problem in the first place is rude and immature.
And if you respond to this, I will ask Corie and Kyle to ban you.
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Again, over-stepping her boundaries.
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